{"id":1037,"date":"2012-07-20T15:24:36","date_gmt":"2012-07-20T20:24:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/?p=1037"},"modified":"2012-07-20T15:24:36","modified_gmt":"2012-07-20T20:24:36","slug":"comparing-the-yuba-mundo-with-surlys-big-dummy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/2012\/07\/comparing-the-yuba-mundo-with-surlys-big-dummy\/","title":{"rendered":"Comparing the Yuba Mundo with Surly&#8217;s Big Dummy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/P1010030.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/P1010030-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"contestants\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-1046\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/P1010030-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/P1010030-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/P1010030.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>So last weekend I grabbed my electric bike with the XtraCycle attachment, and biked over to a friend, who has a <a href=\"http:\/\/surlybikes.com\/bikes\/big_dummy\">Surly Big Dummy<\/a>. He agreed to swap the two bikes for a short time to allow me to compare my other long-tail, the <a href=\"http:\/\/yubaride.com\/yubashop\/product.php?id_product=65\">Yuba Mundo<\/a>, with his.<\/p>\n<p>The following is my comparison, which is based on the setup I had for each bike, and that may not be optimal, as the Mundo was set up for my body size and preferences, while the Big Dummy wasn&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>Overall I found them both be very similar in how they felt: normal to ride, easy to maneuver and not swaying under loads unlike the Xtracycle attachment that tends to. The Big Dummy seemed to have built with flexibility in mind, that&#8217;s why most of the loading area&#8217;s hardware can be removed, while the Yuba Mundo has been built for strength, thus the framework on the back is integrated to the bike, making the frame stronger, but non-removable, thus unchangeable.  <\/p>\n<p>The differences I found: <\/p>\n<ul>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/P1010068.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/P1010068-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"Surly Big Dummy\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-1052\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/P1010068-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/P1010068-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/P1010068.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<li>The biggest difference is in the panniers. The Mundo&#8217;s Go-getter bag is well-built, fully covered and keeps the water out. Not so with the general XtraCycle bags, that the Big Dummy uses.<\/li>\n<li>The gearing is wider for the Big Dummy, and that means I don&#8217;t run out of gears going on flat roads or downhill. I suspect the gearing components are lower quality on the Mundo, however for me shifting works well.<\/li>\n<li>Both have a very stable kickstand, but the Big Dummy&#8217;s kickstand is mounted under the frame for the loading area, thus it is harder to use.<\/li>\n<li>The bottom of the loading area is wider on the Big Dummy, which I like. However the front of it tends to bump into my ankle as I take off. The Mundo&#8217;s bottom area is a bit narrower, and also comes out in a 45 degree angle, not a 90 degree one, so instead of hitting my ankle, it pushes it out of the way at worst.<\/li>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/P1010079.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/P1010079-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"GaboronMundo\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-1054\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/P1010079-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/P1010079-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/P1010079.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<li>The Mundo is heavier, but it is stronger as well as cheaper. The Big Dummy is more flexible, as the whole loading area is removable so it doesn&#8217;t add strength to the construction. The Mundo&#8217;s frame is made more torque and bend-resistant because the rear load-holding frame is part of the bike frame (not to mention the super strong 48 spoked and extra wide axle&#8217;d rear wheel)<\/li>\n<li>Interestingly enough, after all this flexibility talk, the Mundo comes with an easily adjustable seatpost, but the Big Dummy needed an allen wrench for changing the height.\n<li>The Mundo comes with fenders, more ready for rain.<\/li>\n<li>This may be selectable before shipping, but the Big Dummy&#8217;s handle bar in my case is a mountain bike-style straight bar, while the Mundo&#8217;s is an ergonomically more correct comfort bike-style bar. Both need quite a bit of lifting to be comfortable for me.<\/li>\n<li>The Big Dummy I am borrowing is black while the Mundo is light blue. There are other colors available of course, but in general the Mundo is more visible in traffic.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>There are some smaller differences between the two as well, that I didn&#8217;t assign too much importance to, maybe others would. One of them is that the Big Dummy is a few inches longer, and another one is that it is fully compatible with the various XtraCycle attachments. I believe the newer version is also compatible with Yuba&#8217;s Go-Getter bags, which is a good thing as those bags are truly marvelous!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/P1010069.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/P1010069-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"Neighbor riding\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-1049\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/P1010069-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/P1010069-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/P1010069.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>I even tested the two bikes on a neighbor of mine, who was walking by. He was willing and afterwards I got a few words from him as well about his preferences. He did like the rear handle bars (with a bell!) on the Big Dummy. I don&#8217;t have that on the Yuba, but Marianne, who also tested traveling on the two bikes said, that she likes the &#8216;adult treatment&#8217; of the handlebar-less setup &#8211; it provides more freedom.<\/p>\n<p>some more comparisons:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.joe-bike.com\/cargo-bikes\/surly-big-dummy\/ \">Joe-bike.com<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/humofthecity.com\/2012\/02\/07\/bike-v-bike-yuba-mundo-v4-meets-the-surly-big-dummy\/\">Another blog<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So last weekend I grabbed my electric bike with the XtraCycle attachment, and biked over to a friend, who has a Surly Big Dummy. He agreed to swap the two bikes for a short time to allow me to compare &hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/2012\/07\/comparing-the-yuba-mundo-with-surlys-big-dummy\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1047,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[27],"tags":[59,47],"class_list":["post-1037","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-cargobicycling","tag-bicycle","tag-cargo-bikes"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/Yuba-Dummy.jpg","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1037","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1037"}],"version-history":[{"count":12,"href":"https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1037\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1060,"href":"https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1037\/revisions\/1060"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1047"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1037"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1037"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.transitionamherst.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1037"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}